found out that one of the gulf holes. >> that's right. >> was owned by the city. >> that's correct. >> and if someone brushes up against a public facility or something like that that is where that line can be drawn, too. >> that's right. >> and boouts -- scouts are using them in public and can be prohibited from doing that and if there are too many facilities that they're using, you know, and that leverage is going to be greater j. boy scouts are widely supported by the religious community. i heard a statistic, 70% of local troops are supported by local churches. that adds in another issue when you talk about some of the more conservative religious organizations wanting it to stay the way it is. >> they're having to do a delicate balancing act right now between the churches on the one hand, pulling in one direction and you have math, public opinion, and many corporations that are not willing to buck the public opinion too much. they can't take the hit on the market share. >> and a lot of this is public opinion driven? >> yes. >> and i will give you a theoretical and probably people